ambassador susan rice is on the short list to replace secretary of state hillary clinton. but it would be controversial choice for obama, one that key republicans say they plan to block. here for a former balanced debate. editor of chief of the washington free deacon. gentlemen, welcome. >> great to be with you. >> shannon: does president obama really want susan rice under oath in front of a group of some, some will be hostile senators who have questions about benghazi? >> i think if he chooses to go that direction, it's -- he has that right. now look, susan rice went through the talks last week. some went well, some didn't go that well. but i think that overall, if it's the president's -- it is his option to do it. i think right now, you know, it looks like he probably will. but i don't think he, my sense is that -- she hasn't done anything yet that is going to disqualify her. senator lieberman said that. you have most of the senate democrats who are rallying behind her. i think if she was put up, i think she would be confirmed. >> shannon: matt, doug mentioned the meetin